NEEPS North East Eco-friendly People's Site    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Join! (free) >   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  What do you think about personal carbon credits?          NEEPS Forum Index -> Global Warming, Climate Change etc View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message wildgarlic Site Admin Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 5240 Location: Alford-ish Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: What do you think about personal carbon credits? Quote: MPs back personal carbon credits The government should go ahead with a system of personal "carbon credits" to meet emissions targets, MPs have said. The Environmental Audit Committee said the scheme would be more effective than taxes for cutting carbon emissions. Under the scheme people would be given an annual carbon limit for fuel and energy use - which they could exceed by buying credits from those who use less. Environment minister Hilary Benn said there were practical drawbacks to the plan although it did have "potential". Read More _________________ Neeps Flickr Group - check out some of the fab photos from other Neepsters and share some of your own. Back to top Ina Moderator Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 3530 Location: Kincardineshire Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Very difficult to regulate that, I think - and as usual, the rich will just buy up what they can. George Monbiot has something on that in his book Heat - have to read up again. _________________ Ina Back to top PurpleDragon Neepster Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 1257 Location: Turriff area Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: I think it is just another ploy to make us think they actually give a damn. If they spent as much money on actually doing something as they do on talking about it, we might get somewhere. _________________ No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood. Back to top Diana Auctioneer/Moderator Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 1642 Location: Kincardineshire Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Ina wrote: Very difficult to regulate that, I think - and as usual, the rich will just buy up what they can. Which would mean the "poor" would be not so poor? _________________ Tumuli Design Fill the frame Being looby keeps me sane Back to top Ina Moderator Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 3530 Location: Kincardineshire Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Diana wrote: Which would mean the "poor" would be not so poor? Depends on the price, I suppose! If it comes to the point where the poor would have to sell their carbon credits to buy food (like the current problem for many of "heating or eating"), they'd still be poor. They might then have a little more money, but wouldn't be allowed to spend it on anything that releases carbon... _________________ Ina Back to top Jessica Mini-Neepster with staying power Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 79 Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: ... and generally the poor do not have money to invest in more carbon efficient appliances/heating system/transport etc. Depends how big an allowance you would get - on a european industrial basis the initial allowance was actual very generous so that it would hardly have an effect but would make you think of what actually is carbon-inefficient. However, the money that would be spend on such a system is probably better spend in grants to reduce carbon emission via insulation/renewable energies etc. _________________ aka Dikeside Back to top Maidenstone Mini-Neepster with staying power Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 69 Location: Chapel of Garioch Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: And what about the people who can't give-a-damn?  They will just shell out more money for fuel etc., and not cut down a bit.  There is a large proportion of the population who will just carry on as normal.  It has to be done for them, or to them, so that they have no choice, but what ... I don't know. _________________ Local food - better by far! Back to top Jessica Mini-Neepster with staying power Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 79 Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: the point is that there are not only paying more for fuel but also using up their carbon allowance - once that is used up they will have to buy allowances from peope who have some spare and that price again will vary depending on supply and demand - just like the fuel prices now. _________________ aka Dikeside Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         NEEPS Forum Index -> Global Warming, Climate Change etc All times are GMT + 1 Hour Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Welcome to Neeps----------------Say HelloCompetitionsSite Stuff What's in the area----------------What's on 2008Meet Up DetailsWhat's on TV/RadioNeeps Food Co-opScottish ProducersArt & HistoryLocal Links The Green bit----------------Views on the newsGreen BuildingGreen PowerRRRR - refuse, Reduce, Reuse, RecycleGreen ParentingGlobal Warming, Climate Change etcGreen Health & BeautyThe Debating Chamber Make, Do and Mend----------------Crafty StuffThe North Eats........Fix It, DIY etcPhotographyThe GarageGadgets, Gizmos and Techie Stuff The Fun Bit----------------A Wee BletherUnder The Hammer - The Neeps Auction RoomThe Neeps EmporiumReviewsPoetry & Writings The Great Outdoors----------------GardeningWeather 2006 - archiveGo Wild In The CountryPetsSheep, Goats, Pigs and Horses etcPoultryWeather Diary 2008weather 2007 - archive  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Card File  Gallery  Forum Archive Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group