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Julie · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject:

Well....I was pondering my last post this morning - hoping it didn't sound like I was pulling out the 'I'm a victim' card, cause I hate that behaviour, it's just that those are the only examples I can cite with any validity - and so I mentinoned it to Gordon. He pointed out that as my brother had had his appendix removed many years ago and they didn't pick up on it then, they may not routinely test for all things that are carried in the blood. My point may not be so valid after all

The flaw in the doctors referral approach would be the possibility of any individual doctor having prejudice against alt therapies, some would; some wouldn't. I was thinking more along the lines of compelling alt therapy practitioners to refer if they thought conventional medicine was wise. I'm sure most of them are not so arrogant as to think they can do it all?

Carriers? Pardon me if I'm wrong - probable - but don't you have to contract a disease before you can become a carrier or be born with it in your system or genes?
Quite happy to be put straight with an interesting explaination if I'm wrong.

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Sassinak · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject:

My daughter has a big problem with the muscles in her neck at the moment.
Her doctor (Turriff practice) said that Reiki could help and she could recommend someone. Nix said she already knew a couple (Me and Philby) but thanks anyway

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Martin · Neepster Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 663

I think you'll find that all the "reputable" alternative therapies include schooling in how to spot things that should be referred to a gp, and although there are errors made, most therapists are very conscious of the "do no harm" thing, and in this increasingly litigious age, they'd be potty not to bend over backwards to be careful.
Our local GPs surgery is excellent in this respect, and my own doctor is very accepting and encouraging of my use of "alternatives", but unfortunately not everyone is so lucky!
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JamesB · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject:

Julie · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject:

There is no doubt that they do save lives. Some diseases have been completely eradicated in Europe due to the use of vaccines.
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Smooth Hound · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject:

ive had a normal flu jab just a couple of days ago, im really not sure whether ive done the right thing or not, probably never will either. theres no going back now though.

im still pondering the swine flu

baldowrie · Neepster Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1159

Smooth hound I had a slight reaction to my jab, so probably not going to get the swine flu one....at least for now any way.

I was also told the season flu jab has H1N1 in it this year.

Smooth Hound · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject:

yea i was thinking the same, although i had no reaction myself.

heres one for yu

next wed ive an appointment with my consultant, and i have bloodtests taken the week before, so anyway on monday i went for my blood tests. when i get there , she says do you know what im testing for

so i told her my history etc, and she said, well ill take for what i think theyll need

, so off we go , jabbibng away and ending up in my hand,

, anyway when i got home i thought this isnt right , surely they should know what im there for, so i phoned up my consultant and told him what happened, and it turned out i had only two of the four tests i need,

so today i had to go back for more bloody jabbing

and apparently im a difficult patient

IainC · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

Pfff... well you should know what you are in for

I think these days... It's always worth knowing what you are going in for, etc so you can make sure they haven't mixed you up with someone else... even if only to make sure they aren't chopping off something you'd rather hold onto

JamesB · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject:

just found some shocking news
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...urologists-25-deaths-America.html
I'll admit this is the first time I've heard of the 1976 flu outbreak, I was only 3 yrs old then!
It sounds terrible and it was for the people who got GBS.
so you'd think I'd change my views because of this ....

but consider the following ...
The incident rate for GBS caused by the vaccine was about 1:100,000 and the mortality rate was about 1:1,000,000.
The outbreak of flu was never a pandemic and mass vaccination should never of gone ahead when it did.
It does illustrate the risks of vaccination, I've always said they are never completely safe, its all about the balance of probabilities
The current mortality rate from swine flu in Europe (accoring to the who) is about 1:250 although the number of cases is probably widely under reported, lets say by a factor of 10 so the actual mortality rate is say 1:2,500.

If I was getting the flu jab (I wont be yet since Im not high risk or front line staff) then I know which chance I'd rather take.

Yes there are risks with all vaccinations (and the health agencies will be monitorring the situation closely) but the risks of getting the infection and dying are more significant.

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