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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They never stay tidy though do they... I spent ages with our two getting theirs tidied out, the very next day when I looked in you couldn't see the carpet for toys and clothes again.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh so true, now where's my whip?

only joking my children are not hit in any way shape or form
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see why they would want the ability to interview a child, without the parent being present, if necessary.
I know of a young boy who is self haming.He said that his father was aware of what he was doing, but did nothing.
Social services were quietly told of this and went to interview him - with the father present. He was asked if he ever hurt himself and the father immediately said 'You never do anything like that do you? Just tell them so'. The boy denied doing anything at all and no further questioning was done.
I think there would possibly have been a different outcome if the overbearing presence of the father hadn't been there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baldowrie wrote:
oh so true, now where's my whip?

only joking my children are not hit in any way shape or form


Mine would be if only I could catch them
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a child has the right to be seen without a parent present. Some parents can be controlling - especially if they are abusive parents. How can a child safely ask for help if the person they most fear is sat beside them.
Again....those with nothing to hide need have no fear about what their child might say about them.
Personally, I would feel safer with the risk of being accused of coercing my child out of the picture.
Also, kids aren't stupid - and if they are, they need extra tuition of the kind offered by a special needs support unit in school - but they are not going to make up bad stuff about the people they love the most.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kind offered by a special needs support unit in school


I take it that's a joke right?

Just like it rarely happens in practise just like the support of vulnerable adults

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but they are not going to make up bad stuff about the people they love the most.


No but a child, particularly if young or special needs can be coerced into saying things they don't want to just like adults can be and they don't need to be 'stupid' for that to happen
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and just to add from the mouths of the special education teacher at my daughters school 'there are no special needs child in Scotland therefore we don't have the unit open for them' and was quoting from his directive from the Scots Exc!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the beligerence Baldowrie?
Not everyone shares your experience or your viewpoint.

Waste of time discussing it when that's the response - PBS
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure Baldowrie wasn't being beligerent.  I can understand and fully sympathise with the comment and infact many of Baldowrie's comments.

I have experienced some of the things that Baldowrie has talked about. I took my DS out of school when he was in primary 3 as he was continuously being bullied by his teacher and head teacher. Why? well he's different. He doesn't fit that box that they wanted to put him in.

What was so sad about it was that he was dying to start school, he was so very excited and he went to a school in Aberdeen for a year and did really well, but our local primary just killed any enthusiasm he had for school.
We had him home educated for a year, did it all the right way and asked for help from the local authority and what did we get.......absolutley FA. Not one peep out of them.

Anyway when we moved over to this coast, he went back to school and the nightmare started all over again. Any time we thought we had made progress, he got a new teacher or a change in management structure at the school or what ever.

I have never had a more soul destroying and stressful experience than trying to deal with my DS's progress through the school system, the special needs care and the social work department of Aberdeenshire.

I have huge admiration for any parent that takes on the role of home education. It can be a joyful thing, but requires time and dedication. I would have loved to do it, I have no doubt that my DS would have left my education with more than he left the school system with, but I had to go and earn our daily bread.

I'm so glad that he is finally out of school and he can start to actually progress in life. He has a plan and he's working towards it. Finger's crossed.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have never had a more soul destroying and stressful experience than trying to deal with my DS's progress through the school system, the special needs care and the social work department of Aberdeenshire.




You just feel so powerless and you see your child utterly destroyed before your eyes.


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and he can start to actually progress in life


and you will fully understand when I tell yesterday my son caught a football!  

I hope he achieves his dreams, the world is now his to live in.  He may be classed as special needs but he is just special and needs understanding


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