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(free) >   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Beastie ID Please Page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next          NEEPS Forum Index -> Gardening View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derris Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: having a read of that ,   id just leave it, its just the way it goes with b beans sometimes, i dare say the aphids help with something else, but try the watering can and the pinching out the shoots, apparently its the shoots the beasties like Back to top Townie Moderator Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 2724 Location: Fife Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Oooerr SH is a banned substance   Quote: Garden centres must remove Derris from their shelves from 10 October, when EU rulings banning the pesticide come into force. Dove Associates and HTA nursery consultant John Adlam believes the ban is bad for gardening: "Derris has been an effective product in the garden market for many years. It was considered to be one of the valuable products available to the retail gardener," said Adlam. Buckingham Nurseries & Garden Centre plant manager Chris Day added that the ban would hit both gardeners and retailers: "This is a great loss. We sell over 130 units of Doff Derris Dust a year and it is still an integral part of the gardener's ammunition as a contact insecticide for sap-sucking pests, particularly in the greenhouse." The Crop Protection Association said the revocation of the active ingredient rotenone, which is in three professional products and five amateur products, would affect gardeners and the industry. Rotenone is banned from advertising, sale or supply from 10 October this year and from storage and use from 10 October 2009.The product kills caterpillars, flea beetle, raspberry beetles, sawfly and also gives partial control of aphids. Under EU directives, pesticides licences must be re-registered. Manufacturers of Derris are not thought to sell enough of the product to pay the hefty costs involved. Rotenone has been granted "essential use" in the UK until 31 October 2011 for apples, pears, peaches, cherries, ornamentals and potatoes only. Consumer products are: Bayer Bio Liquid Derris Plus, Vitax Derris Dust, Doff Derris Dust, Murphy Derris Dust and Nature's Answer Derris Dust. - See www.pesticides.gov.uk/approvals.asp?id=2432 http://www.hortweek.com/news/845063/Derris-struck-off-pesticide-ban/ Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: post above yours   Back to top Townie Moderator Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 2724 Location: Fife Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Had an idea   Wonder if I can use diatomaceous earth and give the plants a good dusting of that... its organic... and made from crushed fossils and stuff, wonder if it would have sufficient jaggy bits in it to pierce the aphids? I'm away out to give them a liberal dusting... will report back later   Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: what about soapy water in a watering can, after all your washing up. instead of tipping it away, could work   you can report back on that too   Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: cant imagine the little blighters liking that   Back to top pete_inthehills Moderator Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 1100 Location: Huntlyish Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Townie wrote: Had an idea   Wonder if I can use diatomaceous earth and give the plants a good dusting of that... its organic... and made from crushed fossils and stuff, wonder if it would have sufficient jaggy bits in it to pierce the aphids? I'm away out to give them a liberal dusting... will report back later   diatomaceous earth is made up of crushed fossils - small siliceous diatoms which actually are very beautiful if you magnify them enough. DE works by sucking all the moisture out of an insect.  It might work if you dust them enough, but I suspect you won't be able to keep them dusted enough. but no harm in trying. It looks like you have green fly and the big ones are adults that can produce 1000's of babies in a short time. pete inthehills _________________ Pete www.beggshillbothy.co.uk Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: soapy water Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject:       Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         NEEPS Forum Index -> Gardening All times are GMT Page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next Page 2 of 3   Jump to: Select a forum Welcome to Neeps----------------Say HelloSite Stuff What's in the area----------------What's on TV/RadioWhat's on?Meet Up DetailsNeeps Food Co-opScottish ProducersLocal Links The Green bit----------------Views on the newsGreen BuildingRRRR - refuse, Reduce, Reuse, RecyclePermaculture & TransitionGreen ParentingGlobal Warming, Climate Change etcGreen Health & BeautyThe Debating Chamber The Great Outdoors----------------GardeningWeather 2006 - archiveGo Wild In The CountryPetsSheep, Goats, Pigs and Horses etcPoultryweather 2007 - archiveWeather Diary 2009Weather Diary 2008 ArchiveBee Keeping Make, Do and Mend----------------The North Eats........The GarageGadgets, Gizmos and Techie StuffThe Frugal FoodieBetter Than Bought Arts & Crafts----------------Crafty StuffPhotographyPoetry & WritingsArt & HistoryDressmaking The Fun Bit----------------A Wee BletherUnder The Hammer - The Neeps Auction RoomThe Neeps EmporiumReviewsFun & GamesThe Neeps Arms  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Card File  Gallery  Forum Archive Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group