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Kelly

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Is this seriously messed up or what! A kid I childmind for was prattling away to me about his new xbox game the other day. I was paying minimal attention when I suddenly heard him complain about being stuck on a level were his player was getting his teeth pulled out with pliers. He also said it was cool when the guy looses too many lives and blows himself up with dinamite!
I asked him what the game was called and looked it up on Amazon.
Its an 18.
He's 7.
his dad brought it for him.
He plays it alone in his bedroom.
We don't have any games consols. My boy hasn't asked for one, he most likely won't get one even if he does.
I'm not a prude, I have let my boy watch pre-vetted older rated films (the good the bad and the ugly is an 18, but rated in @1960 ish, he's watched it). I would not let him watch a film that included bloody and graffic violence. Theres a big difference between letting a kid play a shoot em up Alien type game and a shoot em up toruchre em and pull their teeth out game.
The game if anyone wants to lookit up on amazon for the write up is called Gun (xbox.)
monkey nuts

I'm no prude either ...but...one of the boys I fostered a couple of years ago was bought a console and games by his Mum. The game was Grand theft auto.. he was only 12 at the time!! The language was disgraceful. I confiscted it much to his Mum's annoyance
misteralz

GTA's brilliant in all its incarnations. Beating pedestrians to death with baseball bats and shooting at the police is an incredibly good way to unwind. But it is a game, and I've never felt the need to do it in real life. I've never even stolen a tank.
If you've got it in you to do twisted s**t like that, you're gonna do it whether you've played GTA or not. And MN, really, do you not think that they hear worse at school? I still can't understand why folk get so worked up about swearing.
zombiecazz

Yes we're a bit like that too. We do try and vet DS's (14 yrs) DVDs and Games, but it's a never ending battle with what his mates have, so he has ended up playing games and watching DVDs that we would not have approved for him. Sometimes I have given in and allowed him certain games as he has already played them to death at a mates. GTA San Andreas being one. He did have one Conker
Fun war fighting game with teddies and squirrels, but did they have to spend some much time swearing.
According to the paper this weekend it is big and it is clever to swear. Pah I say.
Kelly

misteralz wrote:
GTA's brilliant in all its incarnations. Beating pedestrians to death with baseball bats and shooting at the police is an incredibly good way to unwind. But it is a game, and I've never felt the need to do it in real life. I've never even stolen a tank.
If you've got it in you to do twisted s**t like that, you're gonna do it whether you've played GTA or not. And MN, really, do you not think that they hear worse at school? I still can't understand why folk get so worked up about swearing.

Woah, do you have kids!!
Of course they swear, even in my boy's small village primary I have often hear "You f*****g c***" Shouted across the playground. I don't give a flying f*** about swearing, I do think that 7 year olds shouldn't be playing games that make it fun and light entertainment to kill maim and do home dentistry. I don't think for one moment this kid is gonna turn into a school shooter, and if he was fourteen or so I probably wouldn't have even commented on it.
You may use it to relax but I kind of guess (though I may be wrong) that you are old enough to play an 18 rated game.
Would you take a seven year old to the cinema to watch a similar film?
But think of this, I know I quiet often dream about the thing most on my mind. If this kid is playing unsupervised at night what will he dream, how does that affect the way he veiws the world and the people he interacts with.
He may not seem outwardly harmed, but on some level he must be a little f****d up.
zombiecazz

misteralz wrote:
And MN, really, do you not think that they hear worse at school? I still can't understand why folk get so worked up about swearing.


Well unfortunately both myself and MN deal with Kids that aren't always sensible/controlled enough not to swear at the teachers or take some of those threats they hear/see on their xbox and reproduce them to adults.
They're not little psycho or sick, but quite often emotionally and socially inept.

totally off topic. My god has Carol Voderman had a boo job or WHAT!!!
See countdown now!!
misteralz

zombiecazz wrote:
Well unfortunately both myself and MN deal with Kids that aren't always sensible/controlled enough not to swear at the teachers or take some of those threats they hear/see on their xbox and reproduce them to adults.
They're not little psycho or sick, but quite often emotionally and socially inept.


Then they should never be exposed to stuff like that, surely? But you're not going to ban everything a bit taboo in case the highly impressionable see it.
We, as a culture, wouldn't allow ourselves to be governed by rules made to protect the minority at the expense of the majority, would we? Oh. Wait, hang on. Give me ten minutes to come up with a better argument than that.

P.S. What is the deal with Carol's paps?
Kelly

ok, not campaining to ban xbox here, like any other media there are age ristrictions which, again, I know is flexible, most 14 year olds have watched 18 films and played 18 games, the point is this childs parents thought nothing of buying it for a child who is only in primary 3. Even 7 yr olds have trouble removing fact from fiction. (again, no he's not going to get a gun and run amok.)
zombiecazz

That's what I took from it.
Not a problem with games or movies with blood, guts, violence etc. Hugh horror movie fan here, but really some people need a good slap.
I would never allow my 7 year old near that kind of material.

BTW she denies that she's had a boob job.
PurpleDragon

There is no way I would allow my kids to have a game like that. When we bought my son his X-Box, it came with a couple of games, one of which I immediately confiscated and subsequently sold on (my son got the money).

I think kids should be kids, and will be kids. However, I disagree with polluting their minds with mindless violence and games like that really aren't necessary. They have got plenty of time to pull people's teeth when they are 18, when they can make their own decisions about what to put in their own heads. Right now - it is my decision what goes it, and to the best of my ability, I try to keep amateur dentistry out of it.

I was browsing a bookshop one time, and opened a book at random to read a paragraph. I often do this to decide if the book is for me, or total junk. Unfortunately, the paragraph I read disgusted me to the level of nausea (seriously - I'm not exaggerating here) and even now when I think of that paragraph, I feel disgust and a deep regret that my mind was polluted by that author. There is nothing I can do about it. The paragraph is in my head and sometimes it jumps up and bites me round the throat, and makes me want to chuck up. I don't want that sort of filth in my mind, and I refuse to put filth of any definition in the minds of my children.
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