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Maria
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Tree planting - sources of info and adviceThanks to Jonny Barton for following contacts when asked about planting nut trees. Although I'd guess the advice goes for all trees.
| Quote: | I would firstly point him to the helpful and knowledgeable nut experts at Devon's A.R.T.
(Agroforestry Reseach Trust)
Email: mail@agroforestry.co.uk
Telephone & fax: +44 (0)1803 840776
Mail: A.R.T., 46 Hunters Moon, Dartington, Totnes, TQ9 6JT, UK
I got trees and advice from there for nut production and it is important to get the right variety for the right location he intends to plant into. So I won't recommend same varieties as mine without checking out first.
Also he (and you ) may be interested in fruit trees and info on them so.....
John Butterworths' Organic Nursery Contact: John Butterworth, Garden Cottage,Auchinleck Estate , Cumnock , Ayrshire, KA18 2LR Telephone: (01290) 551088
If he is growing hazels simply for fuel then growing wild hazels will do best (From the helpful and knowledgeable Bob Davis at FTN, the Forvie Tree Nursery near Ellon, 01358 711292), but it sounds like he wants nuts. |
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Maria
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Tree fax's from Butterworths Organic Nursery website.
| Quote: | Good sources of written/reference information are available from the Royal Horticultural Society (020-7834-4333), such as ‘The Fruit Garden Displayed’ by Harry Baker.
Planting instructions are supplied on ordering.
For most gardens, a small-medium tree is required, for apples on either M26 or MM106 rootstock. A vigorus variety on M26 is as big as a weak-growing variety on MM106. Consideration should be given as to how the ground underneath is to be managed – where trees are to be in grass, then this must be mown, and low branches make things difficult. A clear stem of at least 1.2m is required, and a hover mower is preferred. In a very sheltered garden, a 1.2m stem can be created on M26, but normally MM106 would be used, since this is better able to withstand wind. Where a bigger tree is preferred, MM111 or even M25 can be used. (M27 is only suitable where a very small tree is required, growing in a bed, and kept well-fed.) Many, but not all varieties will attain 1.2m in the nursery in the first year; if not, ‘stem-building’ must be practised. This means restricting (but not removing) side-shoots during the year after planting, keeping them between 4-6” long. This allows the main (leading) shoot to extend properly. At the end of that season, side-shoots are removed and the main stem is cut to the required height.
Where space is very limited, cordons and espaliers are preferred. They can be planted alongside a path, on a fence or wall. Pruning is easy and is mostly a pleasurable summer job. Cordons in particular offer the opportunity to have many varieties in a small space, but are more expensive to plant.
The importance of using a suitable variety is of paramount importance, since a good variety for the location will succeed despite somewhat adverse attention. I have an extensive database of varieties known to succeed in various parts of Scotland and northern England.
Where there is only room for one tree, then where other apples are nearby – as they normally are where there are adjoining gardens – pollination should not be a problem. Otherwise, if it is impossible to fit in another tree (even as a cordon), choose a variety marked as ‘self-fertile’.
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http://www.butterworthsorganicnursery.co.uk/faq.html
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JamesB
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great site thanks, I'll use when ordering apple trees.
we also go every year to the apple sale at pitmedden in September. we are now saving the seeds from the apples and hoping to grow some from that
the butterworths only does fruit trees, anyone know somewhere in scotland doing nut trees (for nuts) rather then fuel. for fuel then bob davies is excellent for local varities of hazel but not sure we will get many nuts off them.
James
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Sassinak
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The trouble with doing that is that no apple tree comes true from seed.
All apple trees, including old varieties such as Bramleys, are grafted as it's the only way to duplicate them
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JamesB
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thanks good point!
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Maria
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Sass wrote | Quote: | The trouble with doing that is that no apple tree comes true from seed.
All apple trees, including old varieties such as Bramleys, are grafted as it's the only way to duplicate them
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If often wonder if we should let nature do what it wants to do  Perhaps duplication for our benefit is not always the best route? Although who wouldn't want a Bramley apple pie. 
On the subject of fruit - I have posted this elsewhere, but it's well worth another mention. A wonderful project run by John Hancox called Commonwealth Orchard.
| Quote: | WHAT? the idea is to get children to plant fruit trees, and soft fruit plants across Glasgow and Scotland now, which would be ready to pick and use for the events in 2014.
WHERE? In locations across Glasgow, Scotland and perhaps also across the Commonwealth countries. The Children’s Orchard has already planted in schools, parks and in other common grounds and this project would be intensified. It would be great to build in a legacy orchard as part of the Commonwealth developments , and perhaps encourage other Commonwealth countries to get involved
WHEN? Now! so that the trees are well established by 2014
WHO? The Children’s Orchard would coordinate and develop the project, working with a range of partners, including education, social work, health promotion, land services and of course, children!
TRACK RECORD: The Children’s Orchard has extensive experience of developing food gardens and orchards, and innovative events and concerts aimed at children, schools and families.
DETAILS John Hancox, 0778 606 3918, john@commonwealthorchard.com
John Hancox, The Commonwealth Orchard, 75 Clouston St, Glasgow G20 8QW
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There's a great map on the site http://www.commonwealthorchard.com/ which already has my little one's school on, as I told John I'm hoping to persuade them that an orchard would be a wonderful addition to the school. A short read of the site will leave you in no doubt that John is keen to see 'fruitfullness' spread Scotland wide 
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