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Smooth Hound

major virus

i seem to have picked up major virus problems, so wont be on as its too difficult , i cant work out problem, so ill be back when ive got it sorted, and as i have no cash, that maybe sometime,
wildgarlic

try downloading free software - avg, avast or similar or even download ubuntu and boot from that (would that help? Martin? Iain?)

Anyway - what are the symptoms?
Smooth Hound

some personal antivirus thing with a yellow shield is telling me i tried it for 2 weeks now my avg is giving me allerts as well every 5 secs , so ive got to clear it, so this is a nightmare writingthis, i have free avg , says its active, i also have the extra 24 pound identity thing from them,
and i dont know what rebbot means ive heard it said, but really havent a clue, the avg warning is a security allert, with a list, ive tried doing what they say, but it confuses me, cause its not working,
its a multiple threat and its a shield alert, from avg, and it suggests clearing one at a time, but i really just dont understand this, some of the threats say to rebbot though. someone please explain.
wildgarlic

It's very possible that it is from Farm Town as lots of users have been claiming the same. Is it spyware protect 2009 that pops up?

http://www.xp-vista.com/spyware-removal/spyware-protect-2009-removal
Smooth Hound

i did think that actually, what should i do
Smooth Hound

ok i think i can do it, but one thing, how do i reboot
Sassinak

Reboot basically means switch your machine off completely and then restart it
Smooth Hound

so just shutting down and starting again, right, ta
IainC

http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.aspx

Try downloading that and running it and see if it helps. We had a trojan get onto a machine at work, despite the right anti virus being in place, etc.

Sounds like a similar kind of one, not only do you get bothered by all kinds of things, your PC is actually spamming the world (if it's the same one), we picked up on the machine firing a heap of email out. The MS removal tool sorted it out though.
Smooth Hound

thanks folks things are in progress, major one this one i think, but im getting there
baldowrie

Don't know what version you are running on but if appropriate do not forget to turn off your system restore before turning off after getting rid of the virus, turn it on again when you next boot up. Virus often get themselves into the system restore and lay in wait for next time you switch on.
IainC

baldowrie wrote:
Don't know what version you are running on but if appropriate do not forget to turn off your system restore before turning off after getting rid of the virus, turn it on again when you next boot up. Virus often get themselves into the system restore and lay in wait for next time you switch on.


Yup, definitely.
Smooth Hound

  many hours later i return, ive downloaded a few things, and i did the one you gave mme ian, that ran about 2 3rds of the way through then froze, i had to shutdown, and reboot   see i know the jargon.   anyway, ive got rid of that bloody thing with a orange shield blocking my screen,  
and aparantly my viruses are isolated in a vault somewhere   until such time as i make a decision on what im doing   i would imagine that means money, but at least its okay now  

thanks everybody
baldowrie

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and aparantly my viruses are isolated in a vault somewhere   until such time as i make a decision on what im doing   i would imagine that means money, but at least its okay now  


No just a place on your computer they are held where theoretically they can do no harm until you delete or repair them.  You should be able to view the infected files (titles and position only) and find out what virus it was by looking at you antivirus logs or virus vault.  Then you can do what ever is necessary to get rid of it.

What antivirus are you using?

Just seen you have avg free, are they still doing that?  My free avg on my computers was ceased a while back as they were no longer doing it and I am too tight fisted to pay for it .  I use avast now.
IainC

Am pretty sure you can still get a free version of AVG, just it's called something slightly different now IIRC.

Regular scans of your machine using various anti spam, spybot and anti virus software is the way to go. There seem to be plenty of "things" out there that can bypass some resident software, esp if you have system restore turned on, 'cos the AV doesn't check in there.

Never get the false sense of security that you have AV installed therefore you DON'T have a virus or anything.
baldowrie

I update and scan daily, so far so good all virus's stopped at source
Smooth Hound

yes still get it free , but for the identity bit you have to pay additional, i do have a list of the viruses, but i think ill wait till someone with a bit of know how can take a look, still got problems, but at least its working, and im not having to clear the bogus antivirus one every few seconds ones things for sure no more neighbours on farmtown,   unless , apart from people i know, although im fed up with farmtown now anyway
IainC

Fire up a list of the ones that you supposedly have and we can take a look, see if we can help.

Another thing you could try is do a search online for "McAfee Stinger"

It's a free download and can detect/remove a number of viruses. Might be worth running it as well as the MS tool.

Get Spybot S&D, Lavasoft Ad-Aware and try running these to see what they detect.

Also, if it's a windows PC, open the task manager and see what all is running in the processes tab.

I'd also take the chance to empty your TEMP folders and internet cache, etc as they quite often sit in there as well.
Smooth Hound

ok, to start with my window security centre is switched off, when i press the switch on thing, it comes up saying the security service cant be started
Smooth Hound

how do i empty my cache and temporary files, im using google chrome
IainC

Quite a lot of the more recent viruses manage to disable your existing AV or stop it from starting.
IainC

Smooth Hound wrote:
how do i empty my cache and temporary files, im using google chrome


http://www.google.com/support/chr...swer.py?answer=95582&hl=en_GB
Smooth Hound

ok done the clearing.

the virus with an elevated risk level, is

ardware.websearch_toolbar there seems to be 3 of them
Smooth Hound

thats according to the pc tools spy work doctor
Smooth Hound

theres also trojan.agent.vg

theres 6 of them and they are medium risk
Smooth Hound

everything seems to be working fine now though maybe it was the clearing i did
IainC

You could try downloading the free version of this.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

Which might help a bit more. The PC Tools thing looks to have a download as well which claims to clear it, not sure if it's a pay for thing or not though?
Smooth Hound

im giving it another scan with the spy doctor, see i these things are still here today.
IainC

Smooth Hound wrote:
everything seems to be working fine now though maybe it was the clearing i did


Everything can look like it's running fine (ie no pop ups) but you can still be infected and spamming the world with dodgy email (esp those from your own contact list), or depending on the trojan, it could be running a keylogger program and sending all the info you are typing back to the creator of the trojan (who's looking for your banking details/sites).

The Malwarebytes thing claims to be able to clear that other infection though so I'd download it and run it.

Clearing up after trojans and viruses can be a long and tedious PITA... depending on how bad it is, it's sometimes as quick and easy to completely rebuild the machine from scratch, although that can be a bigger PITA if you don't have all the drivers, etc.
Smooth Hound

yea you have to pay to clear it, unfortunately, but it does tell you what youve got,
IainC

Smooth Hound wrote:
yea you have to pay to clear it, unfortunately, but it does tell you what youve got,


I never bother with those kinds of tools, there is almost always a way to clear it for free.

If you do use a tool like that, take a note of the names of the viruses and then do a search on how to remove them manually. Sometimes it includes wading into the registry, etc but it's normally fairly straight forward and they normally include fairly comprehensive instructions to follow.
Smooth Hound

wont download the malware thing,

is it worth me paying 29 quid to the spy doctor to sort it, or will they take the money and then say they cant be cleared.
IainC

How won't it download the malware thing?

I wouldn't pay to clear it, but it's up to you.
Martin

DON'T pay Spy Doctor, it is a blatant con!
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6138_102-0.html?threadID=231856
They are the sort of company that probably "infected" your computer in the first place - use Microsnot tools or AVG or Avast....
THEN migrate to Ubuntu pdq!
Smooth Hound

IainC wrote:
How won't it download the malware thing?

I wouldn't pay to clear it, but it's up to you.



it takes me right the way through, and then says a problem caused theprogramme to stop working, windows willclose programme and notify of solution, but no solution comes up
Smooth Hound

Martin wrote:
DON'T pay Spy Doctor, it is a blatant con!
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6138_102-0.html?threadID=231856
They are the sort of company that probably "infected" your computer in the first place - use Microsnot tools or AVG or Avast....
THEN migrate to Ubuntu pdq!


i was concerned about that, ta ill leave it, but i do have avg free plus the extra identity seccurity already
Martin

waaaaay back in the old days, when I ran sad old virus-ridden Windoze, I had a trojan, and tried every free download going, nothing worked - eventually I just ran a  "Full scan" of AVG which sorted it completely (takes quite awhile, but works a treat!)
baldowrie

have you looked in your C drive to see if any of your programmes are fading, i.e. not as bright as the other folders?

A virus can stop you downloading other antivirus software or such to try and get rid of it.

Still not said what platform you are running on XP, Vista???????

If all else fails you might be able to reload windows but you will loose a lot you have on the computer if not all.

The Stringer is a good one, download it to a disk for future use too
IainC

The Stinger app gets regularly updated, so is only really of any good use within a month or two of being downloaded.

Like I say, have a look in the task manager and see what all is running, quite often the virus is pretty damn obvious to spot (ie _08.exe or something) so by killing off the process, you can then sort it out better.
baldowrie

Quote:
The Stinger app gets regularly updated, so is only really of any good use within a month or two of being downloaded


Interesting to know, long time since I have needed it.  Although I did find that loading it on to a disk did help because at the time I couldn't download or even get on the internet because of the virus I had at the time.
IainC

Yeah, was gonna say, that sometimes even having an out of date one can help if you happen to be infected with one that it has the definitions of.
Smooth Hound

Smooth Hound wrote:
IainC wrote:
How won't it download the malware thing?

I wouldn't pay to clear it, but it's up to you.



it takes me right the way through, and then says a problem caused theprogramme to stop working, windows willclose programme and notify of solution, but no solution comes up



i think it is something to do with my google installer not working
Smooth Hound

baldowrie wrote:
have you looked in your C drive to see if any of your programmes are fading, i.e. not as bright as the other folders?

A virus can stop you downloading other antivirus software or such to try and get rid of it.

Still not said what platform you are running on XP, Vista???????

If all else fails you might be able to reload windows but you will loose a lot you have on the computer if not all.

The Stringer is a good one, download it to a disk for future use too



vista
IainC

Smooth Hound wrote:
Smooth Hound wrote:
IainC wrote:
How won't it download the malware thing?

I wouldn't pay to clear it, but it's up to you.



it takes me right the way through, and then says a problem caused theprogramme to stop working, windows willclose programme and notify of solution, but no solution comes up



i think it is something to do with my google installer not working


So you've not even been able to download the program? or it's when you try to install the program that you get the error?

PM me your email address and I can email you the file if you need it.

Iain.
Smooth Hound

pmed


c looks ok, nothing faded, but theres been nothing on there since 2008  
Smooth Hound

ive a full avg computor scan going now, so ill let you know what happens with that when its finished
BikeOnBye

If you want to try a Malware programme try Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware it is a bit slow to load, but once it is loaded you can do a scan of the vital areas or a full scan.
You do have to Update the FREE version by yourself, but it is a small inconvenience.

This programme saved someone a lot of trouble reinstalling Windows, it found something that their Anti-Virus didn't.  After running the programme it all worked again.  No other programme found it that he tried.
IainC

I emailed him that plus the latest stinger that I'd downloaded. With a bit of luck he's managed to get sorted, but was getting some UAC errors when it was scanning earlier. Gave him some instructions on disabling UAC for now as well to see if it helped at all.
niceguyrichy

sounds like you'd just be easier backing up anything important and wiping / clean install.
you not got a portable hdd ?
Smooth Hound

i have i think, an external harddrive, but saying that, ive not got anything but my photos of any importance, so im not too worried about losing stuff, ive a few addresses i coujust right down,
can that be done then
MJ

Just like like to say thanks for all the info on here. My work computer started misbehaving on tue, by wed I couldn't get online. suggestions on here kept me going. after 3hrs today (large amount of that time was scanning and cleaning computer, downloading on/off pen drive) I now have a working computer with full internet connection - YAY! Still trying to figure out where threatfire was hiding, but can only figure it was bundled in with the Spyware doctor. Really have come to hate PC Tools. 2 more computers to do tomorrow...
IainC

Virus really are a complete PITA.

Only today on my own works machine, I was nearly infected, although my AV caught it. Was browsing the 'net... put in the wrong suffix for a domain I was looking at (.com instead of .co.uk) and it bounced me to a site I didn't know, went to the original one and then on to autotrader.co.uk and then next thing up popped the AV software having caught something.

Dunno which of the three sites it was from, but I'm guessing the odd one that I went to by mistake. In all three cases though none of them were "dodgy" sites or even looked iffy, so it's easy to see how machines can get compromised.
Smooth Hound

ive a friend looking over this at the weekend, ive improved it, but its not right
Smooth Hound

if it says right click the my computor icon, where is that , i cant find it to click
baldowrie

vista doesn't have an icon as such.  Left click the start icon bottom left hand corner, then on the list will come up the word computer...what is it that the programme wants you to look into?
Smooth Hound

a ucad trojan  
Smooth Hound

cant see the word computor in the start menu either
IainC

Does it want you to right click and select properties or manage?

If it's properties then go to the control panel and open the SYSTEM icon. The Advanced system settings there will get you to where you need to go.

If it's manage, then just type COMPUTER in the search bar in Vista, you should see both COMPUTER and COMPUTER MANAGEMENT come up, select the management one.
Smooth Hound

on there now, but now it says click properties, and there isnt one. grrrrr
Smooth Hound

ive opened the system icon, thats it thiugh, no properties
Smooth Hound

this what im attempting.

right click My computer icon on your Start button menu.
Click Properties.
Click Hardware Tab.
Click Device Manager.
In the top menu, click View and click Show Hidden Drivers.
Scroll down to non Plug and Play drivers.
Click + at left.
In the list of drivers right click UACd.sys.
Click Disable.
Click YES for confirm.
Close all windows and reboot your computer.
Step 2: Delete UACd.sys trojan driver and malware files.

Download Avenger from here and unzip to your desktop.
Run Avenger, copy,then paste the following text in Input script Box:
Drivers to delete:
UACd.sys

Files to delete:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wJQs.exe

Then click on ‘Execute’.

You will be asked Are you sure you want to execute the current script?. Click Yes.
You will now be asked First step completed — The Avenger has been successfully set up to run on next boot. Reboot now?. Click Yes.
Your PC will now be rebooted.
Step 3: Remove UACd.sys trojan files and any associated malware.

Download Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM). The program designed to quickly detect, destroy and prevent malware, spyware, trojans.
Once downloaded, close all programs and Windows on your computer (including this one).
Double-click on the icon named mbam-setup.exe to install the application.
When the installation begins, keep following the prompts in order to continue with the installation process. Do not make any changes to default settings and when the program has finished installing, make sure a checkmark is placed next to Update Malwarebytes’ Anti-Malware and Launch Malwarebytes’ Anti-Malware, then click Finish.
If an update is found, it will download and install the latest version.
Once the program has loaded, select “Perform Quick Scan”, then click Scan.
MBAM will now start scanning your computer for malware. This process may take some time to finish,so please be patient.
When the scan is complete, click OK, then Show Results to view the results.
Make sure that everything is checked, and click Remove Selected.
MBAM will now delete all of the files and registry keys and add them to the quarantine.
When disinfection is completed, a log will open in Notepad and you may be prompted to Restart.
UACd.sys trojan creates the following files.
%System%\uacinit.dll
%System%\drivers\UAC[RANDOM CHARACTERS].sys
%System%\UAC[RANDOM CHARACTERS].dll
%System%\UAC[RANDOM CHARACTERS].log
%System%\UAC[RANDOM CHARACTERS].dat
%Temp%\tmp[RANDOM NUMBERS].tmp

If you need help with the instructions, then post your questions in our Spyware Removal
Smooth Hound

so far i havent found properties    

god save me  
Smooth Hound

if you need help with the instructions, then post your questions in our Spyware Removal



questions,   are you f      g joking
MJ

okay just gone through most of that, couple of ways. will try to talk through the way I've done it on vista 32
Smooth Hound

MJ

right click on computer in start menu will bring up properties (last option in pop up menu).
Scrub that - IanC's way gets you somewhere else. It was my own way to get there in computer menu you can pick system properties on the top menu bar.
MJ

device manager on left handside (1st option)
Smooth Hound

ok, got that
MJ

now I figure on my computer the option required is system devices, maybe wrong. but have a look

no I missed a step sorry
Smooth Hound

i dont want to say this   but now it says click hardware tab, and i cant see it  
MJ

in view show hidden devices, 4 option, non plug and play does indeed pop up
MJ

there is no hardware tab it's just the blue bit(in my colour scheme)
Smooth Hound

ive done the properties , thats as far as ive gone whats my next step
MJ

the bit on the left  1st option under tasks - device manager
Smooth Hound

ok im on device manager
MJ

then view which is a drop down menu at the top.
MJ

show hidden devices. then you expand the non plug and play drivers - WARNING it's a huge selection in there
Smooth Hound

cant see any dro down menus, theres just an index
MJ

okay now right click - choose properties
MJ

drop down menus include file, action, veiw and help just above the back and forward arrows, show/hide buttons etc
Smooth Hound

that option isnt there
MJ

any luck?
MJ

what options/buttons does it give you?
Smooth Hound

no, just not like it should be   it never bloody is    i dont know if i can go on tonight, im grateful for your help, but ive had enough , i think,
MJ

okay, take a walk, I usually find that helps, just to get my head away.
But your orginal instructions are misleading. will try and work on them, and re post on here. because that's just not how vista 32 works.
Smooth Hound

thanks  
MJ

right click “Computer”  Start button menu.
Click “Properties” – last option in pop up menu
Click “Device Manager” 1st option under “Tasks” on left hand side of window
From the top menu, click “View” and click “Show Hidden Drivers” in drop down menu – 2nd option from bottom/above “customize”.
Scroll down to “non Plug and Play drivers”.
Click “+” at left.
In the list of drivers right click “UACd.sys”.
Click “Properties”
Click “Driver” tab
Click “Stop” button
Click "Ok" to close “UACd.sys properties” window

now you can either follow orginal instruction or I maybe tempted to just right click the file again and uninstall - I am not a techie, I cannot tell you how effective this would be. But with the instuctions that follow this is not the only file that needs to be removed.
Smooth Hound

right im back,
Smooth Hound

mm do you think i need a professional to look at this
MJ

sorry child stole laptop.
I usually just grab the nearest computer geek. problem is they all now do that whistling through the teeth and the "vista, ooh don't do vista" thing.
I like vista, was looking forward to 7, until found my "free upgrade" doesn't count as 7 isn't an "upgrade"
anyway rambling. going to figure out if/how I can do some screen shots.
MJ


okay does your device manager look like this?
Sassinak

I'm sorry to laugh, but I've been in stitches here. It is just like I was when trying to sort out a friend that I'd set up with a PC.
She rang to say that the mouse wasn't working properly.
After much chat, I evventually diagnosed that she had the buttons reversed. i know that it is an option for left handed people, but couldn't figure out how on earth she had managed to switch it over.
I said I would ring back once I had done as you have and made a step by step recovery procedure for her.
I never thought to ask something as basic as "which way round are you holding the mouse ?" She had the mouse back to front. So left was right and so forth. LOL
MJ


this is the drop down menu button you need. Haven't marked it (hate using paint) but you'll see the icon used for the "non plug and play drivers"
Martin

sorry, couldn't resist.......... screenshot? - doddle - Applications - Accessories - Take screen shot.......



Viruses........ don't be silly - running Ubuntu!
Smooth Hound

i get as far as driver tab, but the stop button wont be pressed
MJ

fn insert usually works quite well too.

the old ways are usually the best, just sometimes folk remove my favourite shortcut keys.

Great growing up in the eighties you learn not to rely on the mouse (schools never had 1 per computer until late nineties), saves fiddling with a laptop pointers or plugging in a mouse.
Smooth Hound

the only option i have is to press ok, start and stop wont press
Smooth Hound

fn insert  ???
baldowrie

you still not sorted SH!

Think I would have put my start up disk in and started it again...wipe the lot
Smooth Hound

where do i get a startup disk, ill do that. or is it on here somewhere
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