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Julie

Any suggestions for...

I want to turn some of my vast collection of demijohns into glass cloches by cutting off the bottoms. Has anyone done this already - or something similar - and has anyone any suggestions as to a good way to do it without smashing them?
misteralz

I'd reckon on getting a good bit of heat into them first, then multiple scribes with a stanley knife or tile cutter should see you getting a good clean cut.
Julie

Thanks, I'll give that a try.
I did also wonder if it might help if I put a band of masking tape around it to help prevent splintering, sort of like when you are cutting kitchen worktops or putting selotape on a balloon and piercing it with a pin. It takes up the surface tension in the area or something, what do you think.
misteralz

That would depend entirely on which method you used for heating it up. If you were to try it cold with a tile cutter the it would contain any glass splinters at the very least. Sort of like when you see track cars with crosses taped over the headlamps.  
Julie

Heating them up wouldn't be a problem as they would fit into the rayburn oven.
The only tile cutter I have is a large flat contraption which you place the tiles in and slide the cutter along them. I can't see any way of adapting that to do the job other than turning the demijohn against the cutter. It would probably be worth investing in a hand held glass cutter of some kind. I don't see the stanley knife blades being hard enough for the job, although I do have a small stash of them - could give it a try?

I have a sort of instinctive feeling that it might be better to try and cut a disc from the bottom rather than compromising the structural strength of the jars by cutting the bottoms clean off, what do you think? I expect the actual curve on the bottom edge will be where the glass is thickest too.
misteralz

If you get enough heat into the glass, then a Stanley blade should be sufficient - remember that provided you've not bought yours from the pound shop you can ratchet the blade out which will in effect increase its rigidity. Cutting a disc from the bottom sounds like a good plan, but how do you intend on doing it? I think you'd need a bloody big hole saw for that, and it'd probably need diamond-tipped teeth.

You ever seen one of those plastic orange peelers? You want something like that, ideally, but made in metal.

Julie

I should think a glass cutter would have an industrial grade diamond in it.
I wonder what they used to use to make a circular hole in a window pane with? Do you remember the old fashioned extractor fans that were fitted into the middle of a window pane?
I could probably use a plate as a template and score round it a million times but I can see me smashing the whole jar trying to tap the circle of glass out.

I keep forgetting to ask, what does heating the glass do? Does it render it less liable to break?
I know what excessive heating does, it melts it doesn't it, but no way am I going to get it that hot without making a dirty great deep fire in Gordon's forge.
misteralz

That's a damn good suggestion, actually! The tools they used to use were like a compass, except with a suction cup on them rather than a spike. That'd work well if the demijohn in question has a reasonably flat bottom but it'll require lots of passes.
Heating it will make it easier to cut given that it's going to be quite a thick workpiece. Let it cool naturally afterwards, although throwing the waste piece in a bucket of cold water may be interesting...
Julie

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