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andybebbington · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:06 am Post subject:

they said on the news last night that this girl did have a serious undiagnosed underlining condition that certainly the case of the death but wouldnt know for sure if it had trigged or caused a reaction that led to her death till further testing was done
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Townie · Moderator Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 2723 Location: Fife

I read too that there were underlying problems, it didnt say what tho'

Its a wee shame

JamesB · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

I was aware of this story at the time and all the media interest.
What I have only just found out through a back issue of the new scientest is that the girl died from an existing condition (cancer).

What was worrying is that I didn't see this reported in the main stream news (or did I just miss it?). The issue being that the media are keen on the story when it breaks but never bother to follow up. Im sure the initial story must of put some people off vaccines which is obviously bad.
As was pointed out in an epidemiolgy lecture recented, the biggest killer 100yrs ago was infections eg TB and now it is CVD & cancer. Vaccines have obviously had a big impact on that.

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Fia · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject:

Hear hear, JamesB. It isn't a story when there's a heartbreakingly sad (how must her parents be feeling?) yet simple explanation. Cancer seems everyday. Most of us know people battling it, and survivors - the ones it has taken remain in our hearts.

I was aware of the back story on this, but I have no TV through choice and do not buy newspapers. My news comes from R4, personal contacts and probably far too much time spent at the laptop.
Many newspapers are not worthy of the name imho. An amusing thing to while away a coffee break, possibly. Science is "boffins" and alarming headlines. (some notable exceptions e.g. Simon Singh).

To my mind, rational, controlled and peer reviewed scientific process is the way to make decisions from an informed basis. This, sadly, is not headline material.
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Julie · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject:

I heard the news about her having died from cancer about 48 hours after the original story broke....on the tv news.
Wasn't surprised, it was too isolated a case to have been the vaccine, it didn't add up.
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andybebbington · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject:

yeah i heard that to and thought i had posted it but was at the time my computer was playing up so prob got lost on its way to being posted
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