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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Installing wood burning stove - suppliers? Reply with quote

I currently have an oil combination boiler which is outside the house. The boiler is powered by electricity. We dont have any other form of heating for hot water in the house. If the electricity goes out, we get nothing - no heating, no cups of tea, no supper, no light.

What I would like to do is install a wood burning stove but as it is nothing I have ever done before I am at a complete loss as to where to start looking for a company that will supply and install one.

Anyone got any recomendations?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres one at Alford, helpful but very busy and might be too far?

http://www.donsideheatingsupplies.co.uk/

We installed a woodburner with a back boiler and that is a great success, takes the excess heat away and boosts the hot water.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you! You're right enough, though, they might not come up so far. I can but try!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggestion - if you're going for a woodburner to heat your water, look at solar hot water too, either straight away, or as a possible later option - you'll need a thermal store (posh term for a well insulated hot water tank), so it's no great expense to add a solar coil in that store when you order it (probably £50 or so extra), which is the most efficient way to add solar, which you can use straight away, or it can just be left for later use - will save a mint on a second tank change, or "doing a kludge" to add solar at a later date.
Woodburners and solar work very well in the same system - wood for winter, solar for April-October, and will pay back really fast if it's supplanting an immersion heater in summer
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin, I don't have an immersion heater - we don't have a tank at all. The boiler both heats our water and our house. No boiler - big bother!  

In my living room I have a wall that backs onto the snooker room. The wall is really wide because the bloke who built the house put the snooker room on as a music room where he could play his organ. The snooker room doesn't have an upstairs like the rest of the house - just a small attic. I want to put the stove in the living room and flue up thru the wide wall and into/out of the small attic. I very much doubt I will get hot water out of the stove.

I would love to put an aga/rayburn into the kitchen but again I don't have anywhere to put the chimney.

What I really need is someone who sells all these things to come and ask me what I want to achieve, then tell me what I need to have installed!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's difficult to visualise, but you can put a woodburner with backboiler or wood range against an outside wall, and go through the wall and then straight up with a stainless steel "chimney", which'll work really well - not particularly pretty, but workmanlike...... If you can then find room for a "hot tank" it makes life loads easier - if it's a modern well-insulated sort, it can "even out" the heat as it goes in and out, and will give you  hot water all day, even if the heat source is "out" some of the time - and in summer, if you've got the solar component, you need never have a fire............ A good system well designed and fitted is relatively "low tech", simple, reliable, and not too expensive!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like your aafter a straight stove with no back boiler, something you can chuck a kettle on the top,
shouldnt be difficult with a flue going up the outside wall,
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, stand alone will certainly be easiest and no need to involve a plumber. biggest problem will be getting the flue through the wall (you'll need to get a core drilled if its stone) but once thats done, most builders should be able to do it. I've installed two stoves so far (workshop in prev house and main stove in this house). as long as you get the right type of flue and fittings will be ok. we used stovesonline to supply the stove and flue and the technical guy there was very helpful with the flue design.

the only problem we've had is that the outside section of the flue was folded seams rather than welded seams (I should of used the welded sections outside and folded sections inside but was easy enough to rectify)

James

P.s I got some flue pipe from a place down portlethen way, not sure if they are still around.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
Well, it's difficult to visualise, but you can put a woodburner with backboiler or wood range against an outside wall, and go through the wall and then straight up with a stainless steel "chimney", which'll work really well - not particularly pretty, but workmanlike...... If you can then find room for a "hot tank" it makes life loads easier - if it's a modern well-insulated sort, it can "even out" the heat as it goes in and out, and will give you  hot water all day, even if the heat source is "out" some of the time - and in summer, if you've got the solar component, you need never have a fire............ A good system well designed and fitted is relatively "low tech", simple, reliable, and not too expensive!


Im with Martin on this 100%: our cottage is small (2 bed 1.5 storey) and has no loft (cos the bedrooms need the roof as head height!) apart from a small triangle space above the stairs. We managed to fit a heat store tank in it by having it made in a rectangle not the usual cylinder shape. It sounds pricey but actually wasnt much more than a standard heat store tank, esp as we could put in what feeds we needed so we did put in a solar feed even tho we couldnt get permission at present for solar cos housie is B listed.
worth considering for sure....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear PD

A little nearer to you is:

Speyside Stoves

Tel: 01466 792235

22, The Square, Huntly, Aberdeenshire AB54 8BR

I've had a few informative chats with the guy there. One thing though is that I got the impression that they only like to advise if you are going to buy the stuff from them, which is understandable.  They have an arrangement with another guy who does the flue/chimney work.  I personaly didn't get on with this guy as he appeared uninterested in doing the work unless he knew exactly what stove we were getting,  that was impossible as we didn't and still aren't decided. We ended up buying flues/fill & fittings on-line and getting a local builder to put them in as this was much much cheaper and quicker.  We haven't bought a stove as we don't yet have a floor to put it on.  However we will go back to Huntly to see what stoves they have, when we're at that stage, as we would like to buy local if we can.

I think that they would be more interested in the job you want done as it's a nice neat package.

Yours

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