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baldowrie · Neepster Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1159

My daughter came home with a parental consent form for the HPV immunisation (cervical cancer) the other day. It's up to you if you want to consent or not, however just as a warning to parents in fine print at the bottom it stating that any

child over 12 can give their own consent even if the parents have specifically refused it.

So if you have feelings about it please discuss it with your daughter and ensure you are all signing from the same page as I can envisage 'pressure' being put on these by and large immature girls to consent against parents wishes....abuse in my book!

A mother I know of an elder girl was bombard and threatened for months by medical folk until she relented, her daughter is special needs so they COULD NOT take her consent. This did not stop them threatening legal action and informing her of her lack of parenting skills!

So be warned this is no innocent form, it comes with intimidation from some quaters.

Martin · Neepster Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 663

plus ca change, plus la meme chose......
My parents went through hell in the 50's and 60's to prevent my being vaccinated for polio - teacher pressure, threats, intimidation from all quarters (including other parents). At the time, they were dishing out a very crude and dangerous vaccine, from which several of my peers contracted the disease - the lucky ones ended up crippled, some didn't make it....
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lachlanandmarcus · Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:58 am Post subject:

The other side of the story - An old friend contracted plain old measles as a youngster (he wasnt immunised) and was crippled for life from the disease....its a tricky one, but I guess the issue is the degree of pressure when they are presenting it as a choice for parents when they dont really want it to be a choice.
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Fia · Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject:

As my youngest is 13 I encouraged her to read as much about it as possible, looking at the arguments as objectively and rationally as possible, and make up her own mind. It's her body, and I think she is mature enough to make her own informed decisions. And IMHO it's good to encourage responsibility and maturity in our offspring so they can make informed decisions for themselves.
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baldowrie · Neepster Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1159

well my daughter handed in her consent form and was asked if she consented...she said NO!

She was then told that nearly all the school have declined the vaccine!!!!!!!!!!

Whilst she is sensible she not mature enough to make big decision as yet. All children mature at different ages.

earthroots · Neepster Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 146 Location: deeside

I think even when young people are clearly mature enough to make important decisions for themselves they can still be easily intimidated by the authority of teachers, doctors etc - they may be given the freedom and respect at home needed to reach maturity but doesn't mean they will elsewhere - definitely something to be wary of- some adults have no scruples about playing with their 'authority' over young minds
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baldowrie · Neepster Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1159

Fia · Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:59 am Post subject:

Which is exactly why I encouraged her to research for herself, and not always assume what teachers, doctors etc say is truth.
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Julie · Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:12 am Post subject:

Maybe I'm looking at this from an odd angle to everyone else, but surely it is better to educate your own daughters about the risks from unprotected sex and avoiding partners whom they know to have a promiscuous history already? The virus is an STD after all and can cause cervical cancer. Isn't a programme of vaccination just detrimental to any efforts at raising their awareness in the first place?
I'm not advocating religious style celebacy or naive ostrich tactics, young men and women (because that is what a teenager is) will do what they want to whether we parents sanction it or not. All we can do as parents is to raise their awareness and hope they make sensible choices.
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baldowrie · Neepster Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1159

which is precisely what I have been doing, age appropriate