NEEPS North East Eco-friendly People's Site    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Join! (free) >   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Cloves query Page 1, 2  Next          NEEPS Forum Index -> Green Health & Beauty View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Forget-me-Not Neepster Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Insch Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Cloves query I was reading a blog I follow, simple-green-frugal-co-op.blogspot.com (I hope I've remembered that right. One of the regular writers, whose stuff I quite like, the greening of gavin, forgot exact link but his blog is featuring latest article, writes of cloves for toothache, I knew of this already but he writes an detailed acount of what he did, tea and tea soaked cloves and how it worked and for how long. I did wonder if the numbing of his mouth might be good for sore throats and also could children use it? Strong stuff, you have to be so careful! On that note, not necessarily cloves, does anyone know of a natural child friendly cure for mouth ulcers? Beth _________________ www.womblehouse.blogspot.com The Community that composts together survives together. 'Simplicity is the whole secret of wellbeing.' Peter Matthiessen. Back to top Forget-me-Not Neepster Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Insch Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Simple green frugal coop Oops has not linked, pretty sure it's somewhere on the blog roll thing on mine. If that makes it easier. Beth _________________ www.womblehouse.blogspot.com The Community that composts together survives together. 'Simplicity is the whole secret of wellbeing.' Peter Matthiessen. Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: dont know about for kids, but ive used clove oil, although a tooth ache has to be pretty bad first, as it is horrible stuff. Back to top wildgarlic Site Admin Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 8305 Location: Alford-ish Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: interesting stuff - link is http://simple-green-frugal-co-op.blogspot.com/ _________________ Neeps Flickr Group - check out some of the fab photos from other Neepsters and share some of your own. Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: then theres corsodyl , which is good, ive looked at the bottle it doesnt say anything about children not using it, but youll have to check that out yourself Back to top Forget-me-Not Neepster Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Insch Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Ulcers Is the corsydyl the gel or mouthwash? My youngest tends to bite her lip or inside of her mouth when she gets a cold and it gets inflamed but she cannot handle strong smelling/tasting chemicals, even tooth paste has to be a certain one or two. In an ideal world I suppose, I need to get her drinking a very bland herbal tea with antiseptic properties. Ooh thinking on feet here, will check my homeopathy encyclopaedia! Beth _________________ www.womblehouse.blogspot.com The Community that composts together survives together. 'Simplicity is the whole secret of wellbeing.' Peter Matthiessen. Back to top baldowrie Neepster Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1159 Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: you can approach you pharmacist under minor ailments (prescription given out via pharmacists) and ask them for the best stuff. My son gets severe mouth ulcers because he chews them when small.  He gets a gel from the chemist that gets rid of the ulcer usually in one application. If the child is getting lots of ulcers and has no underline illness look at your toothpaste.  A lot of people don't realise that toothpaste can cause ulcers because you are in fact allergic to it.  Took me 40 years to realise that.  I now use a natural toothpaste and mine, as well as my sons, ulcers are now very few and far between. Back to top Forget-me-Not Neepster Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Insch Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Ulcers Ooohhhhh! Wow, I wonder, she does get ulcers and although healthy is on dietician prescribed vits for her limited diet. She has huge tooth paste issues, do you get the tooth paste via the pharmacist or froma health shop? Beth _________________ www.womblehouse.blogspot.com The Community that composts together survives together. 'Simplicity is the whole secret of wellbeing.' Peter Matthiessen. Back to top Maria Moderator Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 1908 Location: Huntly-ish Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: My green pharma book by Dr James Duke (such a fab book!) says this on clove oil re toothache... Quote: Oil of clove contains a great deal of the anaesthetic, antiseptic chemical eugenol. Cloves are 5 to 10 times richer in eugoenol that other eugenol sources listed in my database. In fact, many dentists use it as a dental anaesthetic and pain reliever, especially when doing root canals. Germany's Commision E, the body of natural medicine experts that makes herbal recommendations to the country's counterpart of the American's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) endorses oil of clove as a local anaesthetica nd antiseptic for toothache. Even a scientific commitee reporting to the FDA commented that iol of clove was only one of the 12 ingredients commonly found in touthache preparations that was "safe and effective for temporary use on a tooth with throbbing pain". You can buy over-the-counter preparations of clove oil to use yourself to numb toothache. the oil is placed directly on the tooth, not ingested. For mouth ulcers he says - often caused by things such as - alchohol, chewing gum, citrus fruits, coffee, dairy products, pinapple, spicy foods, tomatoes, toothpast and vinegar and other acidec foods. He says he's "all for using ice and rinsing your mouth with saltwater". Herbal alternatives he lists while finding what 'stuff' is causing the sores... ** Myrrh ** Tea (ordinary leaves...a spent bag on the sore....or bearbetty, eucalyptus, St Johns' wort, sage, raspberry, peppermint, licorice) * Cankeroot (canker...another name for mouth ulcers plant also known as goldthread * Goldenseal * Licoriece * Sage * Wild Geranium (* he generally rates things with 1-3 leaves...I've used the asterix...3 being the best) Not sure if any of this is relevant now i've re-read your original post FMN - but I've gone and typed it now so it can stay.   _________________ Better late than never! Back to top Smooth Hound Neepster Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 8685 Location: near turriff Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Maria wrote: My green pharma book by Dr James Duke (such a fab book!) says this on clove oil re toothache... Quote: Oil of clove contains a great deal of the anaesthetic, antiseptic chemical eugenol. Cloves are 5 to 10 times richer in eugoenol that other eugenol sources listed in my database. In fact, many dentists use it as a dental anaesthetic and pain reliever, especially when doing root canals. Germany's Commision E, the body of natural medicine experts that makes herbal recommendations to the country's counterpart of the American's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) endorses oil of clove as a local anaesthetica nd antiseptic for toothache. Even a scientific commitee reporting to the FDA commented that iol of clove was only one of the 12 ingredients commonly found in touthache preparations that was "safe and effective for temporary use on a tooth with throbbing pain". You can buy over-the-counter preparations of clove oil to use yourself to numb toothache. the oil is placed directly on the tooth, not ingested. For mouth ulcers he says - often caused by things such as - alchohol, chewing gum, citrus fruits, coffee, dairy products, pinapple, spicy foods, tomatoes, toothpast and vinegar and other acidec foods. He says he's "all for using ice and rinsing your mouth with saltwater". Herbal alternatives he lists while finding what 'stuff' is causing the sores... ** Myrrh ** Tea (ordinary leaves...a spent bag on the sore....or bearbetty, eucalyptus, St Johns' wort, sage, raspberry, peppermint, licorice) * Cankeroot (canker...another name for mouth ulcers plant also known as goldthread * Goldenseal * Licoriece * Sage * Wild Geranium (* he generally rates things with 1-3 leaves...I've used the asterix...3 being the best) Not sure if any of this is relevant now i've re-read your original post FMN - but I've gone and typed it now so it can stay.   that reminds me, you talking about books, i forgot about my food for free book, when you order anymore that is Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         NEEPS Forum Index -> Green Health & Beauty All times are GMT Page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum Welcome to Neeps----------------Say HelloSite Stuff What's in the area----------------What's on TV/RadioWhat's on?Meet Up DetailsNeeps Food Co-opScottish ProducersLocal Links The Green bit----------------Views on the newsGreen BuildingRRRR - refuse, Reduce, Reuse, RecyclePermaculture & TransitionGreen ParentingGlobal Warming, Climate Change etcGreen Health & BeautyThe Debating Chamber The Great Outdoors----------------GardeningWeather 2006 - archiveGo Wild In The CountryPetsSheep, Goats, Pigs and Horses etcPoultryweather 2007 - archiveWeather Diary 2009Weather Diary 2008 ArchiveBee Keeping Make, Do and Mend----------------The North Eats........The GarageGadgets, Gizmos and Techie StuffThe Frugal FoodieBetter Than Bought Arts & Crafts----------------Crafty StuffPhotographyPoetry & WritingsArt & HistoryDressmaking The Fun Bit----------------A Wee BletherUnder The Hammer - The Neeps Auction RoomThe Neeps EmporiumReviewsFun & GamesThe Neeps Arms  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Card File  Gallery  Forum Archive Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group